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watches or brands we dislike - Printviselig Version: +- Urdebatten / Urforum (https://urdebatten.dk) +-- Forum: Hovedfora (https://urdebatten.dk/forumdisplay.php?fid=79) +--- Forum: Urforum (https://urdebatten.dk/forumdisplay.php?fid=70) +--- Tråd: watches or brands we dislike (/showthread.php?tid=77186) |
Re: watches or brands we dislike - TioMalo - 27-04-2012 Citat:Jeg får ofte mails fra nye ur-interesserede der overvejer at købe deres første dyre ur og har læste en masse herinde, som desværre har givet dem et helt skævt syn på visse ting. Det er da ikke super heldigt og irriterer mig faktisk lidt at vi skræmmer en del væk på bekostning af vores eget morskab...Jeps, Mads. Men så må vi beslutte os at enten være Netlægens ur-udgave, (så de uvidende ikke misforstå noget) eller at fortsætte med den herlige blanding af forskellige meninger og formål, vi nu alle har. BTW - hvis man så skrev kun diktionærisk tørt og sagligt her og 120% objektivt, ville du stadigvæg modtage mails, hvor rookies har misforstået det hele... Måske er det lidt off-topic, men kan ikke lade være: Den bedste (ur-) misforståelse, jeg nogensinde har oplevet, var når der kom en pænt påklædt 50+ herre ind i bixen, og langede en rødguld 1803 Rolex Daydate over disken, den skulle til reparation. Ikke alene havde han (?) repareret låsen med et stykke snor (stiften var knækket), uret var også gået i stå og han tilføjede: "Det er jo en Rolex - inget andet ur kunne køre på samme batteri over 20 år". Og det var alstå ikke en joke.... Hilsen - John Re: watches or brands we dislike - baun - 27-04-2012 Lad mig være mere præcis: Det er ok - lovligt - at lave en tråd om hvilke ure man ikke kan lide. (der er ikke censur eller mundkurv) Men jeg bryder mig ikke om det.... og det har jeg vel også lov til at sige og begrunde. vh baun Re: watches or brands we dislike - willy - 27-04-2012 Mads Gjødesen Skrev:People only learn about watches or anthing else for that matter,if some one has the courage to give them a honest opinion.In your way of thinking you would not give them a honest opinion in case you make them sadwilly Skrev:Mads Gjødesen Skrev:Af ren nysgerrighed tillader jeg mig at spørge hvad denne tråd rent faktisk har til formål at bidrage med? Det er vel lidt som i frikvarterene i folkeskolen, hvor man kedede sig og fandt et tilfældigt offer som skulle mobbes uden den store grundThat is not what i asked a opinion on Mads.And getting grown up peoples meanings about watches or brands is part of a debate forum.Or would you like if we all followed your guidelines on what we should write? Maybe the difference between us is that i say what i honestly mean because i do not sell watches.Remember there are two sides to every story Re: watches or brands we dislike - willy - 27-04-2012 Mads Gjødesen Skrev:Tak for et sagligt svar John (Tio Malo). Det var såmænd bare det jeg efterlysteAll brands make bad watches now and again.Some brands make overpriced watches all of the time.There are no black and white answers in the watch world.Maybe some of the people who come to you to buy a watch are a little more critical because they have read a opinion that is not your own.I have written pieces on the other blogg where i have praised the new Brietling caliber and the new model Planet Ocean.But at the same time i am critical of these two brands that have been selling Basic ETA calibers in their watches at a ridiculous high price.And i tell anyone buy a used IWC instead .This does not make me the most popular blogger in Denmark amongst people who sell watches.What you call a crooked way of looking at things is a cute way of saying you have competition. PS.The IWC site on Uredebetten is growing and many are buying IWC Watches someone told the truth about certain brands Re: watches or brands we dislike - Mads Gjødesen - 27-04-2012 Willy hvorfor mener du et brugt IWC er et bedre køb end et tilsvarende Omega? Jeg mener Omegas ETA modeller giver mere eller i hvertfald mindst samme value-for-money som IWCs ETA baserede modeller. Desuden er det både lettere og hurtigere at få serviceret et Omega i DK. Prisniveauet er ca. det samme. Brandmæssigt er IWC knap så fremme i skoen som Omega, men derimod har IWC lavet modeller som Topgun og div. LE dykker modeller der også lugter langt væk af markedsføring. Så den ender vel 1-1?! /Mads Re: watches or brands we dislike - willy - 28-04-2012 Mads Gjødesen Skrev:Willy hvorfor mener du et brugt IWC er et bedre køb end et tilsvarende Omega? Jeg mener Omegas ETA modeller giver mere eller i hvertfald mindst samme value-for-money som IWCs ETA baserede modeller. Desuden er det både lettere og hurtigere at få serviceret et Omega i DK. Prisniveauet er ca. det samme.IWC rebuild their ETA calibers to a much higher standard compaired to Omega.Also they have true inhouse calibers where Omega still use ETA calibers.And I think most of the watch experts in this world know that IWC have a tradition and workmanship that far excedes Omega.I agree with what you say about Top gun models and i think IWC have to be carefull in the future.Many of their new models are to mainstream for my liking.To be honest i do not think you can compare a brand that have built some of the greatest complications in the watch world,to a mainstream brand like Omega.Brietling and Omega are mass produced watches with a minimum of handwork.You cannot say the same about IWC. Willy PS. Before anyone jumps on my back. I am not saying Omega or Brietling make bad watches Re: watches or brands we dislike - hannover_dk - 28-04-2012 Yes IWC is nicely finished Eta, but does it actually make a difference , and it is at a cost, also for service cost and omega makes very nice in house like 8500 Re: watches or brands we dislike - Mads Gjødesen - 28-04-2012 De urmagere jeg har talt med vurderer ikke IWCs ETA modeller over Omegas ETAer, men på ca. samme niveau. Nogen af dem der roder med det til dagligt der kan bidrage her? Men jeg er enig med dig i at IWC har et højere niveau end Omega hvis man ser på helæe model paletten. Særligt deres 7-days og komplicerede modeller med minuterepeater og evighedskalender er langt over Omegas complications. At IWC så i mange år har brugt Valjoux 7750 som base i deres perpetual calender og GC er ikke super heldigt. Men sådan har alle mærker nogle uheldige episoder /Mads Re: watches or brands we dislike - Kristofferj - 28-04-2012 <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
Re: watches or brands we dislike - willy - 29-04-2012 Having read about watches for many years on sites all over the world i have never read or heard of any respected watch experts.Who would put Omega in the same catergory as IWC.Maybe you can try to do it in Denmark but it means nothing.Anyone in my honest opinion who puts Omega in the same watch making class as IWC is talking rubbish.IWC have built some of the greatest watches ever seen and invented more different types of watches than Omega and Brietling together.We are talking about a brand that make the Destriero Scafusia the most complicated serially produced watch in the world ever.Omega is ETA everyone knows this, their history is so close even today ETA supply nearly all parts to Omega.To suggest that Omega are inhouse is not true.I could carry on writing pages but i will not.I will just give this advice to anyone who is in doubt.Start reading the history past and present of these two brands and you will find out for yourself. Willy |