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Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - Nopanic - 08-09-2010
hannover_dk Skrev:Nopanic Skrev:Er der nogle der har et godt review af en AT(andre end de glimrende links)Præcis hvilken ref?
Jeg ved der er en del af 3536 (fordi jeg har ledt) men der er også andre.
vh
Ja dem er der et hav af, men jeg tænker mere på 3548, altså AT1000 Meter.
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - hannover_dk - 08-09-2010
Jeg mener denne burde fungere. Den loader langsomt da det er PDF
http://forums.timezone.com/pdf.php?th=484284
Den loader så dårligt hos mig, at jeg lige har kopieret den her, hvis du også har problem med linket:
Subject: IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers, ref. 3548-06
Posted by Henk Hoving on Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:25:25 GMT
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IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers
Introduction
A review of the latest version of the IWC Aquatimer, the referencenumber for
this watch is: IWC354806. The IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers comes standard in
stainless steel with dark blue rubber strap, and it is limited to a total of
1953 watches. I have bought the bracelet shown here lateron, as I am not really
a fan of straps (leather or rubber for that matter).
In terms of functions and technology, the Aquatimer Automatic is virtually
identical to the titanium IWC Aquatimer Automatic 2000. One of the few
differences is its pressure resistance, which is designed to withstand up to 100
bar or the pressure encountered 1000 m below the surface. As a result, the case
is only 12.8 mm thick, rather than 14.8 mm. Another distinctive feature is the
fact that this one is available exclusively in stainless steel with a blue
rubber strap.
The following is taken from the IWC-website:
"Technically speaking, the Aquatimer â€oeCousteau Divers― is a tribute to
Jacques-Yves Cousteau, the Frenchman who found fame as a pioneer of diving,
became the first man to explore the underwater world and coinvented the
equipment used in scuba diving today. Through legendary films like â€oeWorld of
Silence― (1956) and â€oeWorld Without Sun― (1964) he made ordinary people
aware of the spectacular world that lay below the surface of the world’s seas
and oceans. He became an untiring and committed protector of the environment, a
scientist with a talent for effective public relations who took up the cudgels
on behalf of the seas and in 1974 founded the Cousteau Society, which culminated
in a partnership with IWC in 2004. The fact that the series is limited to 1953
individually numbered watches, like the choice of colours, is a reference to the
first Red Sea expedition by Jacques-Yves Cousteau back in 1953."
It's features are:
- Mechanical movement
- Self-winding
- Centre seconds with stop function
- Date display
- Mechanical rotating inner bezel
- Screw-in crown
- Sapphire glass, coated on both sides, 3.3 mm thick
- Special â€oeAlcyone― engraving on case back
- Luminous elements on hands, dial and rotating inner bezel
- Water-resistant: 100 bar (1000 m)
- Case diameter: 42 mm
- Case height: 12.8 mm
- Weight: Aquatimer â€oeCousteau Divers― in stainless steel with rubber strap:
118 g
- Weight: Aquatimer â€oeCousteau Divers― in stainless steel with stainless
steel bracelet: 175 g
Movement:
The caliber is the IWC30110, introduced in 2003 replacing the IWC37524. The
IWC30110 is a extensively reworked ETA2892A2 caliber with 28800vph, 42 hour
powerreserve and automatic winding. This caliber is delivered to IWC in parts in
it's finest grade (chronometer-grade) that ETA delivers. Then IWC improves the
caliber with new/better parts, and Nickel-plates and decorates it. The
'standard' ETA2892 has 21 jewels, IWC adds 2 jewels, amongst other improvements
like replacing the date-mechanism. IWC does the assembling and regulation
completely inhouse. When the watch leaves the factory, it is tested for 21 days
and runs within +1..+7 sec/24H, which is a tighter tolerance than used by COSC.
Case
The case is stainless steel and has a completely brushed finish, which I find
very appropiate on a divers watch, only the rim of the stainless bezel is
polished and the crowns are polished. The front has a thick sapphire crystal
which has anti-reflective coating on both sides. The back is screwed-in and has
a lovely engraving of the Alcyone-logo used by the Cousteau society. It bears a
serialnumber and the limited edition number on the back as well.
Dial
The dial is beautifully dark blue colored, and has a very nice sunburst-shine
over it, the hourmarkers are applied (not painted) and are made of small blocks
of white luminous material. The hands are broad and have luminous material all
the way. The minutehand is orange-colored which emmits actually a yellow shine
when looking at it in the dark. The dial reads "IWC Schaffhausen" printed in
white at 12, and "Cousteau Divers" printed in orange at 6. This dial is amongst
the most ledgible of all dials that I've ever seen, very high points here!
Crowns
The upper crown at 2 is used to set the time and date, and it can be used to
manual wind the watch, it's normal position is when screwed down. This crown has
the "IWC Probus Scafusia" printed on it. The lower crown at 4 is for setting the
inner rotating bezel, one full rotation of the crown moves the bezel 5 minutes
on the scale, only in counter-clockwise direction. The setting goes very secure
and it clicks nicely into the minute-positions. The crown is triple sealed, and
one seal is conus-shaped in which the crown gets pushed in due to the
waterpressure for extra protection. The crown can withstand 200 bars (or 2000
meters) of pressure, and the crown can indeed be used when submerged, but when
reaching a certain depth (around 6~10 meters) the crown gets disengaged from the
inner bezel. The crown still can be turned safely, but the bezel doesn't move.
It is said that this construction adds waterresistance because the outer seal is
pushed into a conus-shaped ring, and that this construction preserves error's
during the dive. I personally would have preferred a bezel you can use at every
given depth, because I like to reset my bezel during the decompression-stages.
See picture below for the crown construction, it's actually pretty ingenius:
Inner rotating bezel
The bezel is matte blue, and has luminous material applied onto it, when looking
at it in the dark, all orange text and markers glow yellow (even including the
20/25/30...55 markers). The rotating bezel moves over jewels, it works very
smooth and sets into 60 fixed minute-positions.
Bracelet / Strap
The IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers comes standard on the dark blue rubber strap.
This rubber strap is amongst the best I've worn, and when you're looking for a
watch on a strong yet subtle rubber strap, this Aquatimer is amongst the best
(next to the Hublot). I personally am no fan of straps and bought the stainless
steel bracelet as an extra (around 1000 Euros), I much prefer to wear it this
way and IMO makes the watch complete.
The bracelet is the well-known IWC-bracelet as seen on the GST-models, the links
can be added or removed with the help of the two tools you get with the watch,
and it is beautifully made. The clasp locks secure and has a hidden push-button
to open the bracelet. The bracelet has the full brushed finish just as the
watch-case, and it's a perfect match.
IWC / Cousteau book
With the IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers comes a very nice hardcover book full
with incredible pictures and text that spans 50 years of Cousteau's research,
IWC and the IWC Aquatimer. A lovely read for anyone into diving and the
underwater world (and IWC-watches!). You cannot buy this book in the store, it
comes directly from IWC, and it's a very nice extra with the watch.
Hope you've enjoyed the show!
vh
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - ali - 09-09-2010
I would suggest that a few members of this blogg look at many of the complications IWC have built on ETA calibers and on JL calibers.Omega have never in all of their history ever made watches that compare with brands like AP.Patek,JL,VC,IWC.And that is a fact of life.For christs sake stop kidding yourselvs,there is more respect in the international watch world for any IWC compaired to Omega.I will say it once more Omega are a mass produced product for mass produced people. Willy
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - jacob jensen - 09-09-2010
Med JL mener du så Jaeger Le Coultre ali
hvis ja hvilke IWC modeller har de leveret værket til
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - baun - 09-09-2010
ali Skrev:.I will say it once more Omega are a mass produced product for mass produced people. Willy
Igen et personligt angreb. Willy og andre vil måske kalde det humor - eller kant. Jeg kalder det groft og uhøfligt.
Jeg mener at det er netop her grænsen går for tonen her på forum. Hvis man ikke kan få ret, kan man blive grov og uhøflig.
vh Baun
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - Tukjær - 09-09-2010
Baun Skrev:Ignorere ham dog. Det gør jeg og det virker <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Mistede alt respekt, da han begyndte at bruge flere profiler, til at kommentere sine egne indlægali Skrev:.I will say it once more Omega are a mass produced product for mass produced people. Willy
Igen et personligt angreb. Willy og andre vil måske kalde det humor - eller kant. Jeg kalder det groft og uhøfligt.
Jeg mener at det er netop her grænsen går for tonen her på forum. Hvis man ikke kan få ret, kan man blive grov og uhøflig.
vh Baun
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - baun - 09-09-2010
ClausT Skrev:Baun Skrev:Ignorere ham dog. Det gør jeg og det virker <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Mistede alt respekt, da han begyndte at bruge flere profiler, til at kommentere sine egne indlægali Skrev:.I will say it once more Omega are a mass produced product for mass produced people. Willy
Igen et personligt angreb. Willy og andre vil måske kalde det humor - eller kant. Jeg kalder det groft og uhøfligt.
Jeg mener at det er netop her grænsen går for tonen her på forum. Hvis man ikke kan få ret, kan man blive grov og uhøflig.
vh Baun
Selvfølgelig. Synes blot det er et rigtig godt eksempel på hvor grænsen går.
vh Baun
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - jacob jensen - 09-09-2010
Vi kan alle syntes hvad vi vil
men forklar lig baun hvordan du ser den sætning som et personlig angreb
er der noget den ikke er,så er det da personlig
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - hannover_dk - 09-09-2010
jacob jensen Skrev:Vi kan alle syntes hvad vi vilJa alle kan da mene hvad de vil, men en del herinde virker jo ikke så voldsomt begrundet. Det personlige ligger vel i Ali/Willy skriver
men forklar lig baun hvordan du ser den sætning som et personlig angreb
er der noget den ikke er,så er det da personlig
Citat:I would suggest that a few members of this blogg look at many of the complications IWC have built on ETA calibers??
Det med a few members er vel vendt til f.eks Baun som om han ikke rigtigt er med, men om det er personligt eller ikke, det her handler vel om et ret kraftigt forsøg på, uden andet end ord - og manglende egentlig dokumentation, at ville tvinge meninger igennem, og efterlade andre som fjolser.
Jeg ved også, at IWC er godt med, men også at der mange der siger Omega med deres 2892 ekstra finisherede tilmed med Coax - er på niveau, og så hjælper det jo ikke diskussionen, bare at tromme på, uden yderligere begrundelse eller forklaringer, og talen ned, giver sjældent noget.
vh
Re: IWC Aquatimer 2000 Vs 1000 - Tais Brüniche-Olsen - 09-09-2010
ali Skrev:I would suggest that a few members of this blogg look at many of the complications IWC have built on ETA calibers and on JL calibers.Omega have never in all of their history ever made watches that compare with brands like AP.Patek,JL,VC,IWC.And that is a fact of life.For christs sake stop kidding yourselvs,there is more respect in the international watch world for any IWC compaired to Omega.I will say it once more Omega are a mass produced product for mass produced people. Willy
Det synes jeg ikke var det diskussionen gik på. Nu lyder du til at sammenligne mærkerne generelt, mens din første kommentar gik på om man kunne sammenligne et ETA-værk modificeret af IWC med et ETA-værk modificeret af Omega. Din kommentar var:
ali Skrev:When IWC get a caliber from ETA it comes in pieces and each peace is reworked by IWC.Nobody and i do mean nobody reworks a ETA caliber to the standard of IWC.To compare a Omega ETA with a IWC ETA is a joke .Ask any serious watchmaker.